We see things because they are there. The claim of “science” is used when a presupposition needs a little extra oomph. No R value?! No problem! Just assume the very thing you claim then say “science” at the end. In this video a globe believing fundy takes 18 renditions of the rebuttal that disproved his claim of “science” when begging the question of a globe earth that spins at 15 degrees per hour, then rage quits after calling me and idiot.